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Shane Ross is a broadcast television editor who works with HD. This is the place he shares his experiences editing high definition television shows and lets you know about the good things and the bad, hoping you can learn from his mistakes and successes. Shane is also available for hire as a consultant. comeback@mac.com

Wednesday, October 22, 2008

TIMECODE CALCULATOR



The TIMECODE CALCULATOR by Netmedia Software has GREATLY improved. So much that I now can recommend it to many people. Mainly because finally it will properly convert a 23.98 NDF timeline timing into drop frame. Before this, I had to rely on the method I laid out in this blog post. And while I have had this little application for a while, but it never did a proper conversion..until now.

The calculator includes a conversion for 23.98 DF. Now, while that format doesn't really exist (no tapes can record 23.98 DF), what that setting does is convert the NDF timing to a proper DF timing. I have done lots of tests and every time it came up right. If you make the mistake, like I did, of going from 23.98 NDF to 29.97 DF, then the timing will be WAY off. Because the calculator does a frame-for-frame conversion. 45 seconds at 23.98 came up 35 seconds 29.97. Odd. BUT, they make up for that by having a format that doesn't exist, except for timing...23.98 DF.

Wondering if these timecode calculators for the iPhone can offer the same thing...

9 comments:

Andy said...

You know Shane, the fact that I've never need a timecode calcultor since I started working on a NLE makes me wonder what joys I am missing!

PAL, not just a pretty picture :-)

Andy

Shane Ross said...

Never needed to add up separate acts and breaks of black?

editblog said...

time:calc will let you select 59.94 drop frame. but it's not the easiest to use since you have to hit : for entry. All three of those I mention are decent but not great. We need one for the iPhone that is GREAT!

Joe said...

broken link...extra h

Shane Ross said...

Fixed

Brad said...

My iPhone frame/footage/timecode calculator, EditCalc, just became available on the iTunes App Store. It features simultaneous display of frames, footage and timecode, and a history of previous calculations that you can recall with a touch. All for 99 cents. Check out http://sites.google.com/site/editcalc for more info or search iTunes for EditCalc.

Shane Ross said...

Thanks Brad. I'll have to check it out.

reel2reel said...

Shane, I'm a little confused. Do you mean: to get a proper conversion with this timecode calculator is to go from 23.98 NDF to "23.98 DF"?

reel2reel said...

Now I'm being confusing. What I meant to say was:

To get a proper 23.98 NDF to DF conversion with this timecode calculator you should convert 23.98 NDF to "23.98 DF"?

And that will give an accurate length of your show, for instance?